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Jay
30th July 2012, 05:15 PM
Was just looking on LMF and saw some EBC redstuff front brake pads for 85, seems a good price

http://www.lmfvauxhall.co.uk/EBC-Redstuff-Front-Brake-Pads-Insignia-2.0T-and-2.8T.html

DMVXR
30th July 2012, 06:38 PM
good find, but surely not for the VXR though?

those 2 cars don't have the same front brakes.

Jay
30th July 2012, 08:44 PM
didnt know they did a 2.8 turbo non vxr model, thought the vxr was the only one to have a 2.8 turbo engine in the insignia range

DMVXR
30th July 2012, 09:06 PM
no, there's also deffo the 2.8T elite and I think maybe even another one, lower power 280bhp iirc

Toffee VXR
30th July 2012, 09:33 PM
An elite 4 by 4

Markbr
31st July 2012, 07:25 AM
The elite is not a turbo it's just a 2.8 4X4

Back on topic I can't believe no one has made a copy of the front discs yet. I know you can get a set where as its all disc fitted to the hub but we actually have discs bolted to rotars and know one or nowhere does them.

Vauxhall's silly prices are just WELL ENOUGH SAID..........Vectra VXR front brakes are well cheap to buy, I wonder if the Brembo's will come down in price once the cars get a bit older.

DMVXR
31st July 2012, 08:52 AM
edit ?

DMVXR
31st July 2012, 09:06 AM
COUGH

bottom of the page

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/vauxhall/insignia/specs


the Elite has a little turbo


problem is Mark, there are not enough potential customers to drive the competion needed to create a lower priced version.

and they have already been out a while haven't they?, I think Toffee worked out they were originally fitted to the Evo 4 !


but didn't CRN products come up with a replacement disc?

Toffee VXR
31st July 2012, 01:02 PM
Evo 5 through to 9 so I believe. That what mine said on the packaging.

Jay
31st July 2012, 08:24 PM
CRN does some replacement disc's:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-INSIGNIA-VXR-GROOVED-FRONT-BRAKE-DISCS-05-ON-337MM-/170722013216?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27bfd33020

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-INSIGNIA-VXR-DRILLED-GROOVED-FRONT-BRAKE-DISCS-05-ON-337MM-/170722016236?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27bfd33bec

These are cheaper as they dont have the floating bells, their one solid piece but i think i would have a pair of them for 140 then pay 900 to vuaxhall

AstonVauxhall
1st August 2012, 09:26 AM
This place seem to do Brembo and HiSpec 355mm 2 piece discs - http://www.bigbrakes4u.co.uk/

Prices seem quite reasonable.

Personally, I wouldn't go down to solid discs. You'd be reducing stopping power and increasing unsprung mass. As a general rule, every 1kg you add to unsprung weight, effectively adds 8kg to the car.

So if the solid discs are 1kg heavier each, that's effectively 32kg extra your car has to accelerate, stop and turn - permanently.

To look at it alternatively - 1 litre of petrol weights roughly 0.75kg - that's 42 litres of petrol you're carrying around.

And to add insult to injury, you've got less area for the pads to grip onto with more heat being produced.

vxrossco
1st August 2012, 09:29 AM
Ebc told me they wouldn't recommend red stuff for the vec due to the weight so wouldn't think they would be great on the insignia

spoons
2nd August 2012, 06:39 AM
...As a general rule, every 1kg you add to unsprung weight, effectively adds 8kg to the car.

So if the solid discs are 1kg heavier each, that's effectively 32kg extra your car has to accelerate, stop and turn - permanently.

To look at it alternatively - 1 litre of petrol weights roughly 0.75kg - that's 42 litres of petrol you're carrying around.

And to add insult to injury, you've got less area for the pads to grip onto with more heat being produced.

I like this ^^^^^

When I bought my Vectra VXR the first thing I did was remove the standard calipers and discs. Replaced them with AP Racing discs and calipers. I also removed the standard 19" wheels and replaced them with lightweight 18" racing wheels.

So the unsprung mass on each front corner was reduced by around 8 kg (if I remember correctly), it was a lot !

DMVXR
2nd August 2012, 08:36 AM
and then you spoilt it by adding a big bottle of gas inside the car,

oh hang on wait, that was good weight ;)

Heraldo
3rd August 2012, 07:44 AM
I keep hearing comments about the price of disc pads and the most common one is "I would not put cheap pads on my VXR". Well can I be a little contraversial. Bearing in mind the problems I and many others have had with the Vauxhall discs and pads and mine have just been replaced at 23000 miles under warranty just how good are the 250 vauxhall ones? Vauxhall dont make the pads so who do they get them from. I reckon you do not need to spend more than 40 for a set if you buy wisely and say use Mintex ones. If you dont think Mintex are good enough I presume that you only use your VXR on the track and dont use it sensibly on the public highway. By the way I purchased a spare set of front discs and pads brand new for 86 just in case the expensive ones dont last long!

Toffee VXR
3rd August 2012, 07:58 AM
I keep hearing comments about the price of disc pads and the most common one is "I would not put cheap pads on my VXR". Well can I be a little contraversial. Bearing in mind the problems I and many others have had with the Vauxhall discs and pads and mine have just been replaced at 23000 miles under warranty just how good are the 250 vauxhall ones? Vauxhall dont make the pads so who do they get them from. I reckon you do not need to spend more than 40 for a set if you buy wisely and say use Mintex ones. If you dont think Mintex are good enough I presume that you only use your VXR on the track and dont use it sensibly on the public highway. By the way I purchased a spare set of front discs and pads brand new for 86 just in case the expensive ones dont last long!

In some cases you only get what you pay for. Vauxhall don't make the Discs and Pads, the clue is in the name emblazoned on your Calliper. Pads and Discs for 86? God help not only you but anyone else you are in an accident with. You are trying to stop 2 tonne of metal with Solid Discs and Pads made from sandpaper, OH DEAR.....
Sorry to rant at you but this is dangerous.

bembo449
3rd August 2012, 10:34 AM
as above , 86 for disc and pads , im in the trade and on average pay 30 quid for mintex pad sets , just how or off the back of which lorry did you get a full set up for the beast ??

Heraldo
5th August 2012, 09:15 AM
Hi Toffee
Nice to hear from you again. We have been at ods a few times and I have now worked out why. Most posters on Insignia VXR use their vehicles for track days and drive them hard possibly both off the road and on road. I bought mine as my day to day company car that looks hopefully understated so not to attract the boys in blue but it is not as understated as my previous Vectra VXR. I am not a boy racer and because of my age I have been lucky to have been able to have had a number of reasonably quick vehicles including an Aluminium pannelled Ford Lotus Cortina, Capri 3000E, carlton GSI 24V (the best overall), Mitsubishi 3000GTO, M5 and my current toy an SL55 AMG. I have personally worked on the early cars having rebuilt and tuned the Lotus Twin cam Engine and before that dozens of original Mini std Cooper and Cooper S derivates. I speak with a little experience so when I receive some rants on what I say I do like to respond.
Now for the brake disc and pad debate. Another poster asked what back of lorry the 86 pound dfisc and pad package came from. Well they are still avcailable on EBAY from RRD-Automotvive who have been in business for over 30 years and use Juratek pads. Now if you and others say Juratek are not suitable for road cars and are unsafe I suggest you check your Insurance to see if you are covered for a libel case. As an example to support my view that original equipment is not necessarily better than specialist suppliers my daughter in law complained that a noise was coming from her BMW mini rear brakes. I inspected discs that had done 35000 miles and found that they were braking up with large flakes of metal coming off the discs. Enough said "You dont always get what you think you pay for".

Heraldo
5th August 2012, 09:23 AM
Hi Bembo
please see my reply to Toffee. You help me make my point in that Mintex pads are aboutb 30 quid not 250 like Vauxhall charge. have a lokk at RRD-Automotive site on Ebay who still advertise the set for 86. I bought a set for the spare pads and will minutely check the discs by crack testing and the quality of the steel. Dont be fooled I dont just buy on price and fully accept that owners who have no engineering knowledge feel reassured by buying from Vauxhall-nothing wrong in that and on the other side paying 2500 for replacement discs and pads is a little OTT unless of course the vehile is used for racing-but needed for a road car? I would like to know what professionals think of using Juratek or Mintex pads.

bembo449
5th August 2012, 10:55 AM
VX price for brakes are ridiculous , i have plenty of engineering and mechanical knowhow , i also dont like having my pants pulled down on price but i wouldnt consider putting a non reconised brand of brake on my car , mainly because brands have the back up if quality is not upto scratch , also , ive never rated brembo brakes ! had them on a fiat coupe and they never live upto their billing , in the end its your car and your money pal but if you do happen to out brake yourself and hit summat thenits your lookout ;-))

RJ0
12th August 2012, 07:47 PM
as above , 86 for disc and pads , im in the trade and on average pay 30 quid for mintex pad sets , just how or off the back of which lorry did you get a full set up for the beast ??

I thought you worked in IT? (Going by what you stated on vec-C.com)

caspy
24th August 2012, 03:25 PM
Just trying to read prices in the thread but not sure. What is the 'std' cost for a front set of pads (and what life have people got out of theirs) ?

Thanks

bembo449
24th August 2012, 05:52 PM
I thought you worked in IT? (Going by what you stated on vec-C.com)

lets just say i have my sticky lil fingers in quite a few pies but IT is not one of those pies pal lol

caspy
25th August 2012, 08:56 AM
Any know know of or tried trw pattern pads for vxr?

wardy
25th August 2012, 11:55 AM
I've just bought the new Astra VXR and was wondering, would the lifetime warranty be invalidated by fitting pattern parts.
When I was looking into buying the car I checked prices for tyres, mpg etc but never thought about the brakes as the ones on my mk1 VXR were still good when I sold it after 30000miles

Toffee VXR
25th August 2012, 01:44 PM
Any excuse they could find to get out of honouring the Warranty could be used. Bit like you Insurance Company telling you after your accident that they're not paying out because you fitted new wheels and didn't tell them. Need to be careful with this Lifetime Warranty.

AJG
28th August 2012, 11:03 PM
I've just bought the new Astra VXR and was wondering, would the lifetime warranty be invalidated by fitting pattern parts.
When I was looking into buying the car I checked prices for tyres, mpg etc but never thought about the brakes as the ones on my mk1 VXR were still good when I sold it after 30000miles

The new Astra VXR looks the dog's dooh-dahs. Congrats with the purchase, wardy. It appears to have the same front brake set up as the the Siggy VXR and there's loads of threads on that topic; not all of them comforting. Suffice to say, if you get 30k miles out of a set of front pads you must have an anchor in the boot!

Chucky
5th October 2012, 08:12 PM
Hey All,

Getting back to the original topic :-)

Im in need of a new set of pads for the front Brembos and i really don't want to give Vauxhall my first born son to get them. the price they want is disgusting!

Anyone else fitted anything else of note? Decent brands only!

Cheers

Nickjw01
5th October 2012, 10:41 PM
Check out Regal Autosport. Started offering Brembo OE for 145 yesterday.

Thanks to Toddee VXR for that spot.

Chucky
8th October 2012, 11:53 AM
Check out Regal Autosport. Started offering Brembo OE for 145 yesterday.

Thanks to Toddee VXR for that spot.

Thanks! ordered and on the way.

Just need to find a garage to fit em now!=D>=D>

Chucky
11th October 2012, 05:57 PM
Thanks! ordered and on the way.

Just need to find a garage to fit em now!=D>=D>

Oops. Just heard from Regal that Brembo have delayed the arrival of these by a month. It was too good to be true.....

Any other ideas people?

Toffee VXR
11th October 2012, 06:37 PM
Evo 5 - 9 Pads fit.

Chucky
11th October 2012, 10:20 PM
Evo 5 - 9 Pads fit.

Thanks Toffee. does the evo share the same brembo setup? only thing im worried about with that is the weight of the siggy!

Toffee VXR
11th October 2012, 10:27 PM
It's fine. I had the Pagid Pads fitted to mine by an independant Evo Garage. They were for the Evo 5-9 and were better than the OE Brembo Pads.

peterjamesclark
12th October 2012, 08:08 AM
It's fine. I had the Pagid Pads fitted to mine by an independant Evo Garage. They were for the Evo 5-9 and were better than the OE Brembo Pads.

Pagid Pads for our Brembo Brakes

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Insignia_2.8_2011/p/car-parts/brakes/brake-friction/brake-pad/?101720398&1&be7a698cf4609aefba7e2859d7139ca591f93aad&000036

Also got a 30% discount code for them