Performance Envelope

[Sparky]

So in the driving world, the phrase "Performance Envelope - PE", has a few meanings such as:
The car's performance, or perhaps the performance of an individual component.
But how about our PE. How well skilled are we to cope with the performance our cars are prodcuing.
Do we recon we are up to the job. Do we think we can handle anything the car can dish up. Do we feel that the car is easy to out perform, or do we feel that manufacturers are producing cars so well made, so good, perform so well that they actually out perform us and so need all the electronic gagets to keep things under control
So try the pole. What are your thoughts

[M40COO]

My PE is lower than tha car I drive...simply because I'm not experienced enough.
I've been driving 19 years, and the VXR has more than double the power of my previous Astra.
I certainly feel I need tuition to help me get the best out of myself and the car - in harmony !
Another important point is that it's not always possible to test your PE on normal roads.

[Sparky]

I frequently give presentations on driving as well as teach advanced driving. I very often ask the question how many people think their driving is bad. Very few up their hands up,. I look at it as a continous learning process, the more we strive for perfection the closer we get, but we are human, we make mistakes its just the degree of mistake
Thanks very much for the reply and it 's good to see that you are one of those putting their hands up, its from this point we all learn.
Thanks again

[M40COO]

So in your experience,
What would be a better course of action with regard to becoming 'safer' yet more at ease with the car ?
Advanced driving, or maybe a 'car orientation' at a track ?
Obviously advanced driving would be a continuous learning programme, but would a track type course offer enough of a boost to make decent difference ?

[Sparky]

If you are looking for the ultimate understanding of balancing a car then track work is better, but in the real world, you will never push the car to the same degree on the public road, without putting yourself or others in danger and really verging on breaking the law.
To become a safer driver, combining obersvation, balance, progressive driving, taking correct lines, balancing a car for throttle/gear/brakes then it has to be on the road work. It is worth the time and effort and after some tution you can carry on practising, which you cannot do on the track.
However, one interesting point is that if you want to learn skid control, the very first place you should start is in a Go-Kart.

[Teddy]

Mark as i mentioned to you in the past i have now completed my advanced driver training and the points you make, make total sense.
I enjoy driving alot more (i enjoyed it anyway!) and i know how to use my car in a safe manor.
In the same token you can never let your guard or your respect deviate when your behind the wheel, no matter how competent you are it only takes a little slip to cause a major problem.
:)

[Sparky]

Ahhhh but did you vote that's the question tee hee

[Dougie]

Teddy:: ADVANCED DRIVING???????
No I dont believe you hahhahahaa

[SkunkWorkz]

Advanced driving Teddy? Thats not another licence you aquired from the back of a Cornflakes packet is it? :wink:

[NotNormal]

Advanced driving Teddy? Thats not another licence you aquired from the back of a Cornflakes packet is it? :wink:
No I reckon it was from the back of the shampoo bottle :wink:
:lol: :lol:

[Dougie]

Do you get that licence, free when you replace your exhaust at Quick Fit
Oh Sorry you havent replaced it yet
Howz the fumes

[Turbo Dan]

Mark as i mentioned to you in the past i have now completed my advanced driver training and the points you make, make total sense.
I enjoy driving alot more (i enjoyed it anyway!) and i know how to use my car in a safe manor.
In the same token you can never let your guard or your respect deviate when your behind the wheel, no matter how competent you are it only takes a little slip to cause a major problem.
:)
Advanced driver training in what "Scale electrics"

[Sparky]

Don't listen to them Teddy I believe you mate, ...cough......cough........must get my cough mixture, my age you know. :lol:

[Teddy]

Lets take it to the track ;)
No danger of shampoo there :cry:

[SkunkWorkz]

Oooo a challenge i beleive, last time we had a little burn back from Belgium your wheel fell off! Maybe you should master mechanics before advanced driving :lol:

[Dougie]

Wheels falling off
Exhausts falling off
Advanced Driving
WHATEVER NEXT TEDDY!!!!!

[Turbo Dan]

Lets take it to the track ;)
No danger of shampoo there :cry:
Im up for that :D :D

[Teddy]

Oooo a challenge i beleive, last time we had a little burn back from Belgium your wheel fell off! Maybe you should master mechanics before advanced driving :lol:
That wasnt my fault :cry:
Lets do it Dan ;)
I feel we need to partake in some track action this year ;)
Dougie
Your Scottish
Your bald
You can barely touch the pedals!
WHATEVER NEXT!!! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[SkunkWorkz]

Dougie
Your Scottish
Your bald
You can barely touch the pedals!
WHATEVER NEXT!!! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:

[NotNormal]

Im up for that :D :D
Me too :D

[Teddy]

We should organise something then chaps :)

[Aussie]

for VXR track day
http://www.vxrregister.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74
is also listed on the trackday section on the main index pn this site :wink: