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  • #16
    so what was it at the wheels

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    • #17
      Ok, I take it back on the power claims, quite suprising though.

      I still say the SEATs arent as well built - especially the bits they engineer themselves (for example Mk1 leons were well known for rear door seals leaking).

      Still rather have the astra

      Just a thought reading this - has anyone played with an astra by sticking a bigger turbo on and then remapping it ? Garrett turbos are cheap, I reckon something from the GT lineup ( .63 AR GT25 maybe?) would be more bang for bucks than bolting on an exhaust. Granted you need to make a manfold but its been done before and isnt rocket science!

      Maybe one of the tuners will have a play with their demo cars

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      • #18
        Originally posted by m4rtc
        303 bhp and 310ftlb torque from that stage 1
        330bhp (flywheel! :wink: ) for stage 3 with Milltek and Forge FMIC. :wink:

        Let you know how the private track speed testing goes against the Astra
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        • #19
          figures are all good but if you havent tuned the chassie and uprated brakes for that power you might as well brag about it at the pub

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          • #20
            Probably wouldn't need the brakes - at 345mm they are bigger than my LCR (323mm I think) with big 4 pot calipers its probably the equivelent (or close on) to the APs, but factory fit
            However, as I said earlier theres a price to pay for pads/disks when they need replacing.

            I'd like to see someone develop a wilwood setup, be cheaper than the APs and could be just as good.

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            • #21
              vectra VXR has biggies up front and they aint anything to rave about, on the cupra they might be great for 240 through to about 280 odd but 330 and we are telling a different story, a few mags have now commented on its chassie and handling the 240ps so how will a standard set up take to 300 - 330 ?

              top gear mag had that shoot out last month with the stig behind the wheel of each, the cupra was some 1.5secs down on the astra per lap

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              • #22
                Didn't we all agree a while back when he drove the Astra and the Vectra the current Stig can't drive FWD for Toffee

                Feb21....Autocar Bedford Autodrome lap times :
                1st Audi S3
                2nd R26
                3rd Leon Cupra/Astra VXR
                5th Clio 197
                6th Golf Gti
                7th Mazda 3 MPS/Golf R32
                9th Cooper S
                10th Focus ST2
                11th CTR

                “Drive the Leon Cupra back to back with an Astra VXR and you’ll appreciate that its a far more competently engineered car. What it isn’t, however, is a more exciting car. Where the Astra will possibly be a little slower on a given cross country route, it’ll leave you thrilled, dry-mouthed and possibly a little sweaty palmed. The Leon, on the other hand, will have demolished the Vauxhall without a great deal of drama.”

                “The Cupra is strong enough to fend off the Astra VXR and Mazda 3 MPS, but it won’t tempt us from the similarly priced and still more appealing Focus ST or Mégane R26.”

                Braking.................................................. ................Astra.....Leon
                Stopping distance in metres in 4th at 40 km/h.....28,76.....26,63
                Stopping distance in metres in 5th at 50 km/h.....29,52.....27,94

                With the £1350 you save on STANDARD Cupra kit AFL Xenons /Folding Mirrors/Cruise/Climate you would feel happier about forking out for APs if you needed them anyway.

                Anyway back to std cars, having driven both on twisty bits I don't think there is much in the handling.
                I'm just impressed with the standard equipment/price of the Cupra and the performance gain per pound available.
                Both are mucho better than the astra and so leave the Cupra owners much better placed for upgrading to any tuning stage.
                I can't wait for the Cupra to arrive today

                Astra looks nice though
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Aussie
                  vectra VXR has biggies up front and they aint anything to rave about, on the cupra they might be great for 240 through to about 280 odd but 330 and we are telling a different story, a few mags have now commented on its chassie and handling the 240ps so how will a standard set up take to 300 - 330 ?

                  top gear mag had that shoot out last month with the stig behind the wheel of each, the cupra was some 1.5secs down on the astra per lap
                  Im sure the cupra brakes (maybe with a set of pads) will look after 300hp easily enough.

                  BlackVxr - are you getting a cupra as well as or instead of your astra ?

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                  • #24
                    every magazine has a difference of opinion and experience of the driver, few have said place the cupra engine in the standard gti (for some reason not the same praise is being seen for the edition 30) and you will have the perfect combination, as for the stig, who knows which one is which but this one seemed to be able to get the power down and deliver some good times for all the cars he drove with the megane destroying them all and the astra placed nicely second, his only complaint being the power delivery, handling and braking he was impressed with, but saying that the slowest on circuit being his favourite, CTR.


                    im liking the cupra in yellow though

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